**Stephen P. King** (*stephenk1@home.com*)

*Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:08:08 -0400*

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Dear Lance,

Would you be interested in a discussion about dualism vs.

material/ideal monism? I am trying to find a good context to discuss the

phenomenology of clocking, but I find that I need to resolve the above

issue first.

The property of clocking, to me, is commesurable with the property of

observation. When A observes B and B observes A, within the context of

Local Systems theory (as I understand it) the act of observing is an act

of A localizing/selecting the properties of B and B localizing/selecting

the properties of A.

Is it necessary that there be an exange of energy between A and B for

there to be an observation? I don't think so and my reasoning stems from

the nature of the Chu duality between information dynamics and material

dynamics as proposed by Pratt.

I have been reading Amit Goswami's papers and I find his arguments

shallow. :( (He proposes ideal monism) He dismisses dualism: "...it

cannot explain how a seperate, non-material mind interacts with a

material body. If there are such mind-body interactions, then there have

to be exchanges of energy between the two domains."

I find this to be a straw man since it assumes that "energy" is a

common aspect of both or it is categorically distinct from the two.

Energy is dual to information entropy! This is revealed by work done on

the Maxwell Demon problem. The duality is an "active" or "praxic", to

use Finkelstein's term. It is not a duality of seperate and

incommesurable ontological "objects", no! It is a duality between the

modes (I am not sure of the right word) of Existence relative to finite

subsets of the Universe; which is One.

The manifestation of time in finite subsets of the Totality is, to me,

one "side of the duality coin" I am proposing that the evolution of the

propagator of the LS's has dual modes. One mode is the evolution of the

quantum particles "through" their configuration space and the other is

the evolution of the information content of the particle's

configurations. Pratt proposes that these two modes are inverse to each

other, so that an involution between then exists: Mind -> Body -> Mind,

Body -> Mind -> Body. In the situation where the involution involves

perfect "recovery" of the origional, we have the equivalent to an

algebraic identity.

One key point that is emerging from my discussions with Matti, is that

this involution is not perfect for finite systems thus an "imperfect

involution" can be used to model motions! (Oddly, the sypersymmetry

transform at the root of string theory, involves an involution: Boson ->

Fermion -> Boson, Fermion -> Boson -> Fermion that has the stated effect

of generating a translation in a background space-time!) Perhaps, my

duality is part of string theory... ;)

I hope that I am making some sense. :)

Onward to the Unknown,

Stephen

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