[time 567] Re: [time 565] Rational vs. Synthetic (?) modes


Matti Pitkanen (matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi)
Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:58:15 +0300 (EET DST)


On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Stephen P. King wrote:

> Dear Hitoshi and Matti,
>
> Perhaps the two modes are "complementary", in that a "complete"
> understanding is impossible to realize within only one mode, and it is
> impossible to "be" in both modes simultaneously. Rudy Rucker discusses
> these modes and this complementarity, it is not new...

They are! Absolutely. These modes compete. Either one wins
in negentropy gain maximization race. One could
however learn to spend part of time in either mode: would make
life more interesting and help to understand fellow human beings!
The idea about two modes is as old as human kind.
I read Rudy Rucker's book for year(?) ago and ended up with
the idea of infinite primes. He wrote very enjoyable text about
the mystic and rational modes: many-one dichotomy is
essentially rational-mystic dichotomy.

Best,
MP

>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Stephen
>
> Matti Pitkanen wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Hitoshi Kitada wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Matti,
> > >
> > > I understand that you have made considerable efforts to understand
> > > Asian mind. Now my question is...
> snip
> > >
> > Have you ever considered the reason why "only the rational mode is"
> > thought as "the desired one" yet?
> >
> > Difficult question. It seems that these two modes are competing.
> > Perhaps this is good for survival of self containing both kinds
> > of subselves. Perhaps Eastern-Western division is to certain degree
> > good for mankind also.
> >
> > One reason for the 'desired oneness' of rational mode is that the
> > rational mode dominates in recent society. It is very difficult to
> > take seriously even the possibility of different mode of self unless one
> > experiences it personally. Usually this occurs completely spontaneously:
> > for individualistic 'Westener' the idea about 'guru' is very
> > difficult to accept. The tragedy is that people doing science are by
> > definition in rational mode in professional life= often entire life (my
> > personal dream is to stop thinking when I am fifty and fall into a state
> > of whole-body consciousness for the rest of my life(;-)).
> >
> > Best,
> > MP
>



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