[time 988] Communications in four-dimensional society

Matti Pitkänen (matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi)
Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:13:34 +0200

      Communications in four-dimensional society

TGD based theory of consciousness leads to the idea of
four-dimensional society formed by cognitive spacetime sheets
glued everywhere on the material spacetime surface.
The idea about four-dimensional society makes really sense only if
communication between members of this society is possible. It would be
even better if communication could occur in "real subjective time". This
seems to be possible in principle as the following arguments show.

    1. Communication method

A simple model for real time communication between societies
of future and past is based on the possibility of spacetime sheets
of negative time orientation having negative energy density. It
seems natural to assume that at least classical signals propagate
from geometric future to geometric past along these spacetime sheets.
As suggested in the chapters "Biosystems as macroscopic quantum systems"
"Quantum antenna hypothesis" of [cbook], negative energy
"massless extremals" could make possible coherent motion of
living systems. It seems that they could make possible also "real
subjective time" communications in four-dimensional society.

a) Signals to geometric future propagate along spacetime sheets of
positive time orientation. These spacetime sheets can correspond
to ordinary material spacetime sheets but also almost vacuum
spacetime sheets can be considered. In particular, so called "massless
extremals" (see the chapter "Quantum antenna hypothesis" of [cbook])
are possible.

b) Signals to the geometric past propagate along spacetime sheets
of negative time orientation. Negative energy massless extremals
are the optimal choice as far as classical communication is involved.
The reason is that signal propagates with maximal signal velocity and
consists of Fourier components with same momentum direction so that
the shape of pulse is preserved. Polarization direction at a given
point of the massless extremal is constant and depends on the
transversal coordinates only. Solution involves two arbitrary functions
and linear
superposition of parallel Fourier components with identical polarization
directions is
possible. Therefore all possible pulse shapes are possible.

c) What happens in the communication is following. Sender performs
quantum jump in which massless extremal of positive/negative energy is
representing signal propagating to geometric future/past. Some
alphabet formed by the pulse forms for massless extremals: two basic
pulse shapes identifiable as binary digits is the simplest choice.
Receiver interacts with the massless extremal purely classically to
receive the message and generates massless extremal propagating
to geometric past/future as a reply. The difference between sender
and receiver is that sender performs quantum jump whereas receiver
just acts purely classically to receive the message.

d) The commmunication is on-line "real subjective time"
communication. There is no need to wait for next billion
years for reply and members of cultures separated by billions of
light years can have real time chat about their family problems.

   2. Anomalies related to spinning astrophysical
      objects as empirical support for the idea

The proposed communication method could be regarded as mere
wild science fiction unless there were empirical support for the possibility
communication from geometric future to geometric past.
 In the articles [Nachalov1,Nachalov2] various
anomalies related to spinning objects are reviewed. These
anomalies are discussed in the chapter "Anomalies related
to spinning bodies and strong electric fields" of [padTGD].
There are also anomalies related to spining astrophysical objects.
 Kozyrev [Kozyrev] has conducted astronomical observations using a
system of a new type. These observations have been replicated
later by other groups [Lavrentiev,Akimov].
These anomalies give also support for the possibility of the
signal propagation backwards in time.

a) When a telescope was directed at a certain star, the detector
positioned within the telescope registered the incoming signal even if the
main mirror
of the telescope was shieded by metal screens. This indicated that
waves were accompanied by some waves not shielded by the metal screens.

b) When the telescope was directed to the true position, the signal
became stronger. As if there had been almost instantaneous propagation
of signal with velocity billions times greater than the velocity of light!

c) When the telescope was directed to a positionsymmetrical with respect to
position, again signal was detected: the imaginative interpretation was that
the signal
came from future position of the star!

Leaving aside the objections of a typical sceptic and the question whether
the effect is real
or not, one can ask whether the concepts of manysheeted spacetime
concept and
classical Z^0 field could somehow give rise to this kind of effect in
strong conflict
 with conventional wisdom.

a) Propagating photons (extremely tiny 3-surface glued to
macroscopic spacetime sheet) affect the spacetime
sheet and could generate propagating classical Z^0 field
causing the effect in the detector.

b) The strong signal from the true position could
have explanation in terms of a coherent classical Z^0 field
of astronomical size. This kind of coherence is forced
 by the imbeddability requirement and was coined as topological
field quantization in the chapter ``Macroscopic quantum phases and
CP_2 geometry'' of [TGD]. One can intuitively understand it as follows.
In TGD elementary particle is replaced with 3-surface, which can have
arbitrarily large size and absolution minimization of Kaehler action forces
3-surface to behave coherently like single particle (in case
that it does not so, it decomposes into disjoint components!).

The results of Kozyrev are not the only evidence for this kind
of behaviour. Total eclipses of the Sun by the Moon reach maximum
eclipse about 40 seconds before Sun's and Moon's gravitational forces
on Earth align [Flandern]. If gravity is a propagating force, this 3-body
test implies that gravity
propagates at least 20 times faster than light. The result is consistent
with the assumption that the
acceleration of Earth is towards the true instanteous direction of the Sun
now, rather than being
parallel to the direction of the arriving solar photons now.
TGD based explanation is that the changes of the classical gravitational
field are not propagating effects but that the classical gravitational
field behaves like single coherent whole (it could of course
contain also small propagating part).

c) The signal in the symmetric position could indeed come from geometric
future. Only classical gauge fields can carry this kind
of signal. An attractive possibility is that classical Z^0 field
propagated along spacetime sheet with negative time orientation:
for negative time orientation the propagation is expected to occur
backwards in time.


Akimov A.E., Kovalchuk G.U., Medvedev V.G., Oleinik V.K., Pugach A.F.
"Predvaritelnyye rezultaty astronomicheskikh nabludenii po
metodike N.A.Kozyreva.", Kiev, 1992, GAO AN Ukrainy, preprint \# GAO-92-5R.
(russian) ("Preliminary results of astronomical
observations using N.A.Kozyrev's method.")

[van Flandern]
T. van Flandern (1998), Phys. Lett. A, vol. 250, no 1-3
p. 1-11.

[Kozyrev] N.A. Kozyrev (1991)
 "Izbrannyye trudy.", Leningrad State University,
 448 p. (russian) ("Selected works."

Lavrentiev M.M., Yeganova I.A., Medvedev V.G., Oleinik V.K., Fominykh S.F.
"O skanirovanii zvyeozdnogo neba datchikom Kozyreva."
Doklady Akademii Nauk SSSR, 1992, v.323, \# 4. (russian) ("On the
scanning of the star sky with Kozyrev's detector.")

Yu. V. Nachalov (1999)
"Theoretical basis of experimental phenomena"

Yu. V. Nachalov and A.N. Sokolov (1999)
"Experimental investigation of new long-range interactions"

[TGD] M. Pitkaenen (1990)
"Topological Geometrodynamics" Internal Report HU-TFT-IR-90-4
(Helsinki University).

 M. Pitkaenen (1995) "Topological
Geometrodynamics and p-Adic Numbers". Internal Report HU-TFT-IR-95-5
(Helsinki University).

M. Pitkaenen (1998) "TGD inspired theory of consciousness
with applications to biosystems".


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