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Hitoshi Kitada wrote: > A member unsubscribed today. I do not detain them who do not try to be patient, > but I feel some difference between the westerners and asians.
There seems to be an analog of everything quantum, in terms of minds. When I commute through automotive and pedestrian traffic in confined spaces and times, I find many of the combinatorics of dynamics very interesting.
People travel in pairs talking while blocking individuals travelling in single file who desparately seek to pass these talking pairs. Cars often tend to travel slower in the center lane of three lane highways while speedier cars pass on the outside; much like the skin effect of electrons in a conductor.
Many of the effects coming to attention like Cooper's pairs and photon bunching seem to address the traffic flows of 'particles' or particle groups. The patterns of traffic of people, money, information, seem to have many similarities with the traffic of quanta; and seem largely due to the topology of their conductors as well as the 'subjective' topology of the particles themselves (here I include the "wavefunction" as an analog of "subjective topology").
If people may for arguments sake be taken as models of electrons in this manner the electrostatic force is not a 'force' at all but the interaction of distinct space-time geometries, and perhaps Einstein would have liked this idea. I'm not sure if Matti's ideas are along this line but I'd like to know what he and you think on this: That all forces are modelable as interacting, but at some level distinct space-times.
Then all forces are viewable as the extent of the 'impedance matching' or the degree of the orthogonality or non-orthogonality of distinct space-times that they embody. The space-times are superposed in local communication, or entangled non-locally in their memories of past interactions.
People may act like electrons under Pauli exclusion in that the inherent dichotomy in East (spatial), and West (temporal) produce an interaction of complementary subjective space-times. At work, there is a noticeably distinct border or phase partition between Marketing and Data Processing functions. Marketing and DP reject each other and speak totally different languages.
Marketing is more spatial or associative in its language and DP is more temporal or particulate in its language. Marketing is pie in the sky (waves), while DP wants facts and tangibles (particles). Marketing wants continuity and dialogue, DP wants closure and debate. These languages clash and and there is a definite repulsive effect between these two groups of people. Their languages create subjective space-times which repulse each other.
Only through a mediation of _translating_ middle managers do these two groups get together and accomplish anything. That translation is a Fourier like transform of a spatially centered language to a temporally centered language. Sometimes many levels of translation are necessary but the outcome is always delayed in time from its vague beginnings in Marketing to its tangible implementation in DP. The uncertainty is inherent in the "Telephone effect" that Stephan has told me of where translations are inherently indeterminate between separate space-time systems.
---It's interesting that people tend to be uncertain about the simplest things and yet so certain about the most complex of things. For instance, the mere 'second' of time is so determinate that we can measure its passing and standardize it; and yet, whereas science usually forgoes remeasuring things it is certain of (time or space invariants like the validity of the law of large numbers) it measures the 'second' over and over as if we were uncertain whether the next second was going to occur at all. We don't test the "law of large numbers" explicitly as often as we test or measure that simplest thing the 'second'.
When we are certain about something mentatively, it seems to lead eventually to heartbreak when an exception appears. When we are uncertain about something in heart, it seems to lead eventually to a mentative breakdown, when certainty or reality appears.
(I used the Taoist/Buddhist definition of 'mentation' as logical cognition as opposed to the more associative analogy employed by the 'heart'; in terms of left and right brain activities the left brain is the logical or temporal side while the right brain is the associative, spatial or emotive side).
Perhaps the corpus callosum itself is a Fourier like decimation linkage between these two complementary domains; the Marketing and DP departments in each of us.
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