[time 573] Re: [time 567] Re: [time 565] Rational vs. Synthetic (?) modes

Matti Pitkanen (matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi)
Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:33:25 +0300 (EET DST)

On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Stephen P. King wrote:

> Hi Matti,
> ;-) I have studied some yoga techniques (I can't remember the names)
> that involve this. The idea is to "oscillate" between the modes. If one
> can increase the "frequency" of the oscillation enough, one can for all
> intents, "be" in both modes. The "competitive" nature of the dichotomy
> between the two I see as an expression of the competitition between the
> Body and the Mind, each seeks to increase its equilibrium with the
> Universe; but to be "body-less" is to be causally ineffective (no
> inertia - Daemon Paradox) and to be Mind-less is to be selfless...

Interesting! Could it be that some part of you was in whole-body mode
and the rest in ordinary mode or something more complicated. At least the
fact your remember something suggests that some part of your brain was
in standard mode(;-).

 I have had spontaneous experiences of both whole body
consciousness and 'partial' whole body consciusness. Last one occurred
when my cat (actually neighbour's cat which lived for some time
in my rent apartment) slept on my breast. I woke up and realized that
my breast, actually more or less my heart as I thought, was in state of
whole body consciousness. Total 'silence', absence of this always present
unpleasant noise due to subselves waking up and borning, is signature of
whole-body consciousness.

I would see the competion between Body and Mind as competition between
two kinds of quantum jumps or between rational mode and should we call it
emotional mode. For irreducible self (no subselves) either
matter-mind entanglement is reduced in quantum jump or two matter-mind
type subsystems reduce their entanglement and become candidates for
new selves: this does not occur always: it depends on whether they are
able to remain unentangled in subsequent informational time evolutions U
(Psi_i-->UPsi_i--Psi_f is the anatomy of quantum jump).

For instance, sensory experience could correspond at the level of
sensory selves state of oneness, pure sensory experience, lasting for some
time and changing to rational mode providing analysis of what was


> kind regards,
> Stephen
> Matti Pitkanen wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Stephen P. King wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Hitoshi and Matti,
> > >
> > > Perhaps the two modes are "complementary", in that a "complete"
> > > understanding is impossible to realize within only one mode, and it is
> > > impossible to "be" in both modes simultaneously. Rudy Rucker discusses
> > > these modes and this complementarity, it is not new...
> >
> > They are! Absolutely. These modes compete. Either one wins
> > in negentropy gain maximization race. One could
> > however learn to spend part of time in either mode: would make
> > life more interesting and help to understand fellow human beings!
> > The idea about two modes is as old as human kind.
> > I read Rudy Rucker's book for year(?) ago and ended up with
> > the idea of infinite primes. He wrote very enjoyable text about
> > the mystic and rational modes: many-one dichotomy is
> > essentially rational-mystic dichotomy.
> >
> > Best,
> > MP

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