**Hitoshi Kitada** (*hitoshi@kitada.com*)

*Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:57:05 +0900*

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Dear Matti,

Matti Pitkanen <matpitka@pcu.helsinki.fi> wrote:

Subject: [time 805] Re: [time 804] Re: [time 803] Re: [time 801] Re: [time

799] Stillabout construction of U

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*> You might be right in that one can formally introduce
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*> time from S-matrix. Indeed the replacement p_+--> id/dt in
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*> mass squared operator p_kp^k= 2p_+p_--p_T^2
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*> seems to lead to Schrodinger equation if my earlier arguments
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*> are correct.
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*> This replacement is however not needed and is completely ad hoc since
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*> the action of p_+ is in any case well defined.
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By "action of p_+" what do you mean? Does it make your "quantum jump" occur?

*> Unless one interprets
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*> the time coordinate conjugate to p_+ as one configuration space
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*> coordinate associated with space of 3-surfaces at light cone boundary
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*> delta M^4_+xCP_2.
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I do not understand this sentence.

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*> > > In TGD approach one has
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*> > > L_0(tot) Psi=0 rather than HPsi = EPsi! No energy, no time!!
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*> > > By the way, this condition is analogous to your condition
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*> > > that entire universe has vanishing energy
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*> > > HPsi=0
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*> > > Thus there is something common between our approaches!
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*> > Then you agree with that there is no time for the total universe?
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*> I agree in the sense that there is no need to assign time to U: just
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*> S-matrix describes quantum evolution associated with each quantum jump.
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If the total state \Psi is an eigenstate of the total Hamiltonian L_0(tot) of

yours, how the "quantum jump" occur? See

L_0(tot) \Psi = 0,

and \Psi is the total state. There is nothing happen. Scattering operator S

of the universe becomes I, the identity operator. No scattering occur. How

quantum jump can exist?

*> This might be even impossible.
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*> But there is geometric time associated with imbedding
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*> space and spacetime surfaces: in this respect TGD differs from
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*> GRT where also TGD formalism would lead to a loss of geometric time.
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Then you agree that also geometric time does not exist?

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*> And there is the subjective time associated with
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*> quantum jump sequence (nothing geometrical) and psychological time is kind
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*> of hybrid of subjective and geometric time.
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In view of the two observation above, there is no psychological time of the

total universe?

Best wishes,

Hitoshi

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