[time 965] [Fwd: [Fwd: Matsuno's papers on Time]]

Stephen P. King (stephenk1@home.com)
Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:11:44 -0500


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        I am slowly reading Matsuno's paper
http://bio.nagaokaut.ac.jp/~matsuno/preprints/HELSIN98.html and and am
finding some amazing statements relating to clocking. Here are a few
that have caught my attention:

"Uniform progression of processing linear strings while maintaining the
descriptive object invariant is certainly consistent with the linear
progression of globally synchronous time whose global synchronism comes
to guarantee the presence of the global object completely separated from
the descriptive subject. However, those descriptive activities yielding
a globally consistent description in the effect without presupposing any
privileged global perspective in the beginning cannot proceed in
globally synchronous time. When there is no privileged global
perspective to begin with, the resulting description would be at most a
consequence of the interplay among the participating local perspectives.
Time associated with each local perspective is also local. Each local
time is asynchronous, and there is no a priori mechanism for their
synchronization. Only those local times that could succeed in
synchronizing among themselves would come to survive in the consequent
global description that is also accompanied with its a posteriori
globally synchronous time. Unless it is forcibly taken to be irreducible
in itself, globally synchronous time can be seen as a consequence of the
interplay among locally asynchronous times that are equated with
possible local perspectives of description internal to the object to be
described globally only in the effect."

        Here is it important to note that the limitation of "linear strings" is
the direct subject of Peter Wegner's critique in
http://www.cs.brown.edu/~pw/papers/cm.ps and
        This is why I believe that we need to learn how to think of
communications between Local systems with the language of "streams" that
do not presuppose initiality (inductive minimality), for this act to
poison our discussion by injecting the tacit assumption of a priori
first causes into our thinking. The key is, IMHO, that finite LSs can
not reach computational completeness with in less that infinite time,
thus the notion of decidability, that Hitoshi has show to be related to
the existence of time within LSs, is directly relevant here.

"Each internal description provides the context which others of the
similar nature would consult, and at the same time constantly keeps
modifying its own context so as to be incorporated into a globally
consistent description in the effect."

        This is getting us closer to the ideas that I think you are considering
viz: "there is an agent, a "patient" and a context or referent of some
kind." (RE: Definition of Event Date: Tue., 26 Oct 1999 16:49:02 -0500)
        One thing, though, that we should note is that this "globally
consistent description" is very subtle! We must be careful to
distinguish the <<glocal>> consistency, which admits epsilon error due
to the finite computational resources of finite LSs and Universal
consistency, which is only an abstraction that assumes the limit of
infinite computational time/resources. This latter notion is, IMHO,
directly related to Hitoshi's idea that "Time is an indefinite desire to
reach the balance that only the Universe [in itself] has."

"Awareness as a fundamental attribute of measurement suggests that
measurement internal to material
bodies of whatever kind may also be associated with their locally
asynchronous times (Matsuno, 1989, 1996)."

        This speaks for itself. ;^)



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